Why Xbox 360 gets CoD DLC before PS3

by Dan on January 26, 2012

Playable first on Xbox 360, per the 2010 business deal.

The release of the official MW3 season content calendar has fired off a new volley of comments, questions, and confusion from PlayStation 3 gamers. The main question: “You said I would get content early. I paid for Elite just like the Xbox 360 gamers; why do they get content first?” A good question, and one that has a clear answer, I’m happy to say.

Back in 2010, Activision and Microsoft entered a business deal to release DLC on Xbox 360 earlier than other platforms; this contract is valid through the year 2012. This business deal was very widely reported by the games media when the announcement was made at E3 in 2010, and the DLC releases for both Modern Warfare 2 and Call of Duty: Black Ops was released in accordance with that contract. All DLC for MW3 will follow the terms of that deal as well, because it’s still 2012.

This is the short answer. Read on if you would like the long answer.

Vader in SCIV PS3 was such a big deal, he's on the Japanese box.

Exclusivity in the game biz is not uncommon, whether it’s a game franchise only appearing on one platform (Gears of War for Xbox 360, Infamous for PlayStation 3) or content that is only available to one audience or the other (Darth Vader and Yoda in Soul Calibur IV on PS3 and Xbox 360, respectively). Sometimes, as with Soul Calibur IV, this exclusive content eventually shows up on other platforms. Sometimes, as with Kratos in Mortal Kombat or the playable Joker in Batman: Arkham Asylum, it does not.

Thankfully, for Call of Duty DLC, all consoles get all the same content, but there is a delay as to who gets what when. This type of exclusive is not that uncommon either; other games, such as Battlefield 3 and Skyrim, have also arranged timed exclusives, anywhere from a week to a month. Eventually, though, everybody gets everything.

Eric Hirshberg explained Elite's offerings and pricing at XP 2011.

Enter Call of Duty Elite. Premium members pay $49.99 up front and get all the MW3 DLC that will come out over a nine-month period — DLC that Eric Hirshberg said at XP 2011 would cost $60 if it was bought via traditional map pack bundles. Even if you didn’t care about anything else that Elite premium offers, that’s a no-brainer for dedicated CoD players. But somewhere along the way, people convinced themselves that an Elite subscription would trump the 2010 DLC exclusivity deal that was created before Elite existed — that by paying for Elite, they were somehow invalidating a contract between Activision and Microsoft. It doesn’t make any sense, but it is what people started to think.

The Elite team tackles Elite audience Q&A at XP 2011.

I wondered where people would have gotten that idea — had someone actually promised that, or said something at XP 2011 that I missed? — so I researched it. What I found was that you can’t prove the non-existence of something. I can find no evidence of “buy Elite, get PS3 DLC same time as 360″ ever being so much as suggested by any official source. It was never one of the things listed in the official benefits chart; it was never promised by any representative of Activision, Call of Duty, Elite, or its developers. Honestly? I think gamers just convinced themselves that it would happen because they wanted it to happen. That makes sense, but it doesn’t make it true.

Still, the Call of Duty team must have known this assumption could be a source of confusion. So the Elite FAQ is very clear:

Similar to Map Packs, X360 Premium members will receive their Content before PS3 Premium members. All Call of Duty ELITE Premium members will receive a steady stream of content released monthly for 9 months through the Content season, and they will also receive their Content before non-premium members on their console.

I know I am not everybody’s primary source of Activision information, but I also noted this back in June 2011 in my massive “What I Know About Call of Duty Elite” article:

Elite subscribers will be able to access the DLC before it goes on sale to a la carte purchasers. The window of time has not been disclosed. For PS3 owners, this does not override this business deal that currently brings Call of Duty DLC to Xbox 360 first; that deal is valid through 2012. However, Elite members will get the DLC before the non-Elite members on their respective platforms.

So…that’s where we are. The deal from 2010 is why DLC comes out on Xbox 360 first. I’m seeing people scream “rip-off” and stuff like that, but nobody’s going to get ripped off; every gamer will get everything they were promised and everything they paid for. It’s unfortunate that people assumed things about Elite that turned out to not be based in fact, but I hope the truth is clear now. Unpopular, I’m guessing, but clear.

Also, you don’t have to pay to play Call of Duty multiplayer. But everybody knows that now, right?

UPDATE 1/28: I’m sorry to see people taking this article the wrong way. My intent was not to be mean or arrogant; my intent was to clear up the confusion and dig into how we got to this point, because ultimately this is a case of what was said vs. what was assumed. That’s always difficult.

But sorting out the facts does not mean that I don’t understand how frustrated people are. I totally get where the confusion came from; it makes sense and I totally understand why people are upset — and I am sorry about the situation. But I think the flames are starting up now because people wanted to hear something else, and I can’t say what they want to hear. I’m sorry about that, too. All I intended to do was offer the facts and show my work, and I had hoped being clear would be helpful to people who were still confused and asking me about it on Twitter. Perhaps not, in hindsight. So if you need to rage at me about it, okay.

  • http://twitter.com/Dvfaa David McKenzie

    Thanks for clearing that up Dan! but i’m sure people will continue to ask you about it

  • http://twitter.com/The_Anderman Christopher Anderson

    I don’t think that people assumed things about Elite, some did, obviously, but not everybody follows the legal goings-on of the gaming world. People who had never bought a CoD game or a map pack would have no idea that this agreement existed. 

    You’re correct in saying that they never said that PS3 owners would get content at the same time as Xbox users, but they never said that they wouldn’t, and where I’m from withholding information is the same thing as lying.

  • http://twitter.com/BdyDrpdKotaEC Ramey

    “I can find no evidence of “buy Elite, get PS3 DLC same time as 360″ ever being so much as suggested by any official source.” So you didn’t see the video of Eric Hirshberg marketed Elite premium at CoD XP as if all platforms would receive the “early DLC” at the same time, he also marketed it and stated DLC would be over a 12 month period, “1 year” (watch the video) which was later reduced and confirmed to be only 9 months. When you stand up and generalize a subject it can and will be taken as just that. The DLC is being generalized to ALL platforms at the SAME TIME. 

    Also, you didn’t see that the formal announcement that the DLC would be out on Xbox first until recently when Robert Bowling said so at the very, very end of his interview about the DLC. 

    Deal or no deal these types of details and information should have been made known from the very start of the Elite marketing, not some 5 months later and then acting like it shouldn’t be a surprise or a shock. 

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    If they didn’t assume it, where did their belief come from? Because I was unable to find any evidence that it came from an official source. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZDA2EAJV7WMWGFXQIEH4NH5CDQ michael

    Thanks for clearing that up and im sending alot of people this way to shh them up even though im on PS3 also!

  • Anonymous

    @christopher what info did they withhold. Even if some dont know about the original deal is understandable but when people purchase things, its their reaponsibility to read any documentation associated with that purchase.

    people being upset, mad, angry falls on them. Your statement of withholding info is,not correct in this situation…

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    I saw that video at XP — it’s available on YouTube, so even though I was in the room for that presentation I watched it again for the purpose of this article — and when he starts speaking out DLC as part of a premium membership, Eric does not say everybody would get DLC at the same time. He says as an Elite premium member, “you get it first, and you get it more often.” He is speaking about Elite vs non-Elite members, per the context of the entire presentation. 

    His speech was where I expected to find a magic bullet, a promise made to players of one console or another, that people could cite, and it is not there. (What’s more, he gave that speech three months after my article went up, where I was explicit about it. The link is above.)The formal announcement that the DLC would be out on 360 first is, as I have linked above, dated June 14, 2010. That information was clearly stated and public knowledge two years before anybody made a purchasing decision. 

    Did people forget? Sounds like it, yes. Does that mean information was withheld? No, it does not. Will everybody get what they paid for and what they were promised? Yes.

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    That’s why I made it a blog post, so they can see the full answer without me having to repeat myself. :)

  • Anonymous

    Well, I’ll just be glad when the current deal is over. Release dates are confusing enough in games without having to first figure out which people out of five different groups a person belongs in. As I understand it, it’s 360 Elite, then.. 360 non-Elite, PS3 Elite, PS3 Non-Elite, then finally, or at the same time, PC.

    By the way, is it “Elite” or “ELITE?”

  • http://twitter.com/The_Anderman Christopher Anderson

    They should’ve just come out and said it up front and dealt with the backlash at the beginning.

    Instead, they buried that little detail in the fine print, danced around the issue like a politician and continue their dance by not telling us when the other three groups (Xbox non-Elite, PS3 Elite, PS3 non-elite) will get their DLC. Do you think they don’t know? What are they afraid of?

  • Anonymous

    3 questions…  1)  Does the contract have a specific amount of time that must elapse between XBox and other platform releases?  2)  If so, when did/does the time start?  3)  If these facts were already established by contract, why the need to withhold release date info?

  • Chase Pearsall

    I understand the need to clarify Activision’s stance and show that they never guaranteed PS3 customers something that wasn’t going to happen. The “unfortunate” part of this is not that PS3 players assumed Activision would have our backs, it’s that they do not, they have not, and they will not if we are to look at their history. 

    If you’re looking to create an article that will explain and hopefully smooth things over because PS3 customers are upset, we would love that. Help us understand that Activision wants to create a quality product and form a relationship with us so that we will be loyal customers. As customers who love the games we’re trying very hard to justify staying with a company whom, according to this article, would rather tell us that we’re making things up rather than sympathize and explain their business practices. 

    As of today, Jan 26th, PS3 players can not have a conversation with other players through MW3. The chat functionality does not work, which has a crippling effect on a game based around teamwork. Black Ops was unplayable for several weeks after launch due to match making and lag. As of today MW2 is 100% unplayable. Every lobby is hacked. Every. Lobby. Is. Hacked. I spent money on a game that I can never play again.

    Instead of an article calling us liars and people who scream “rip-off” how about taking a look at our situation as a customer and make some effort to right the wrongs that actually exist? Or at the very least have a little sympathy for the hard earned money we’ve spent on products that do not work as intended. I would never wish for these problems or delays for XBox360 owners. We’re all gamers and we all know what it’s like to get screwed. In the case of Call of Duty, Activision is sticking it to PS3 players and have been for the last couple years, and now their representatives and telling us to stop bitching about it. It kind of reminds me of our corrupt law makers, and we can see where that is heading… They’re all getting thrown out.

    Chase.

  • http://twitter.com/BdyDrpdKotaEC Ramey

    I know he doesn’t come out and say ‘everyone that pays for it gets it at the same time’, but he fails to address it also and makes it appear that if you buy it, you get it at the same time. Using wording such as “you get it first, and you get it more often.” would in fact imply that all premium users would in fact be getting the DLC at the same time. Therefore the whole thing is very misleading and in fact untrue.

    Xbox gets it FIRST and MORE OFTEN, as well as using the current timeline (PS3 still doesn’t even have a release date) for content the PS3 will get 8 months of DLC compared to the Xbox receiving the 9 months of DLC, which again is misleading.

    Secondly, anything Call of Duty: Elite, Call of Duty, etc.. have to say about Elite they speak like EVERYONE has it, and are marketing it that if you buy premium on ANY console you will get the map packs right here right now.

    Example: “Call of Duty EliteFriendly care package inbound! Jump into ELITE Premium and play two new Call of Duty: MW3 maps now. Which mode will you play on Piazza?” ~Call of Duty Elite Facebook page Is this not misleading yet again? Very much so it is, anyone that doesn’t know would think ‘hey, I can buy Elite and get the map packs right now on the PS3′. Which is wrong, but the way it has continued to be addressed and marketed is very much leading and very much a lie. And to address your article (no disrespect intended here), only reached a very small group of people. And certainly so by the amount of live audience members at XP as well as Livestream views. People should not have to hunt for the facts when someone is standing in front of you supposedly giving you the “facts”. Everyone behind this whole charade knew what was going on and were NOT being totally honest about it, regardless of the vast amounts of information that were just laying around to be found.   

  • http://twitter.com/ScareBbear shawn

    i feel your article was written with activision legal dept standing over your shoulder the language and context and phrasing you used is indicative of how a lawyer or someone well versed in the legalese way of saying something. so you cant be sued or whatnot would speak.. 

    it does not jive with your past articles and your style of writing this article had a more aggressive edge almost you were pissed off or in some kind of damage control mode.. ie the 1st rule of damage control immed. come out swinging saying you didnt do anything wrong.  

  • http://twitter.com/ScareBbear shawn

    ALso you have failed to even acknowledge the BASIC point being in previous title the DLC was sold through the marketplace and not through an external service like elite.    This article is activision laying the groundwork for any kind of action that may come against them in 6 states that are right reviewing whether activision violated their state consumer protection laws . 

    one of swords know this. its been pointed out before if you check the ftc and bbb records of complaints in JUST those 6 states you will see that activision SETTLES on the spot with 99% of the claims providing you sign a waiver promising not to sue or take any other matter against them on this issue. 

    they know they are in a “grey” area with the law in some states. 

    like my law professor told me “you never want to go into court unless you are 85-90 percent sure you can get a conviction. or aquittal depending which side of the room you’re working 

  • http://twitter.com/ScareBbear shawn

    one last brief note if you were to read the exclusivity agreement im sure you note that it says content delivered through the marketplace not  through an external app like “elite”  ..  

    i challenge you DAN to release a pdf of the actual legal exclusivity agreement that activ and ms signed in ’10

    but you wont you or the legal team will just scream corp. confidentiality or someother legalese   

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    All content is delivered through the marketplaces for each system. In fact, you will note that Elite subscriptions are handled by Microsoft and Sony, and not Activision directly. So Elite is not an app that delivers things at all. 

    I cannot and will not accept your “challenge” to release private information about company business deals for a few reasons:

    1) These details are none of your business. See number 2 on this list. Being a customer does not grant you access to private financial information. The details that do affect you as a customer — the length of the arrangement, for instance — are public knowledge, and have been since the announcement of the deal. But that link explains it as best as I can think to explain it.
    2) I do not have access to this information anyway. The info I have access to is above, and I have shared it. 

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    All content is delivered through the marketplaces for each system; it is not sold “through Elite.” In fact, you will note that Elite subscriptions are handled by Microsoft and Sony, and not Activision directly. So Elite is not an app that delivers things at all; it is a service that grants you content through a third party delivery system, as DLC has always been.
    This article is me trying to clear up some confusion. It is not the conspiracy theory you would like it to be.  

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    I am frustrated, I will agree, because so many people have asked the same question over and over. I am tired of explaining it one on one on Twitter, so I decided to do the full researched version of my standard message on Twitter, and give the whole thing a larger, historical context. 

    I think a lot of people have added emotion to a business deal that had no emotion. I didn’t say it above because I didn’t want to distract from the facts, but that’s the truth. It was a beneficial business arrangement for two companies; it is not an intentional “let’s make the customers suffer” scenario that some people seem to want to make it. Gamers have misjudged Activision’s intentions, much like you have misjudged my intentions for writing this post to begin with. 

    I’m sorry if you don’t like the tone; it’s not intended to be offensive. But I do not agree that I am in damage control mode. I’m just tired of repeating myself and I want the facts to be front and center. When there are assumptions at work, facts are the only solution. 

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    Answer to all three, since they are dependent on the first: I do not know; I have not seen the contract. The exclusivity window is likely a specific minimum amount of time, but I do not think that specific amount of time has ever been overtly discussed. It might be a confidential part of the arrangement. I cannot say for certain because, as I said, I’m not a lawyer and I don’t have access to (or interest in) Activision’s legal documents. 

    Best guess: Check the amount of time between DLC releases on Black Ops and MW2; if you see a pattern, that could suggest a specific time frame. 

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    I agree it’s way too confusing. I know there is always the chance that another deal could pick up where this one leaves off — hell, maybe Sony will counteroffer this time and the shoe will be on the other foot — but I long for a future that is less confusing. 

    I don’t know if your proposed timeline there is true or not. I don’t think we will know until the first PS3 Elite and first non-Elite 360 content arrives, or at least until Activision says when they will arrive. 

    Technically, it’s ELITE. I don’t follow that style because it’s my editorial outlet, dammit, and I do not like YELLING AT MY READERS in all caps. :)

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    “Secondly, anything Call of Duty: Elite, Call of Duty, etc.. have to say about Elite they speak like EVERYONE has it, and are marketing it that if you buy premium on ANY console you will get the map packs right here right now.”

    No, that’s not accurate. Please see the FAQ as cited/linked above. 

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    People are upset, and they’re going to be upset until they get what they want. I am trying to be clear and sort out the unemotional facts from the emotional reactions to those facts. That’s all I can do. If people still want to be angry about the facts, I am not going to try to calm them down. But the facts will still be there, whether you dislike them or not.

    People are not liars. I have never said anything of the sort, and I resent the accusatiohn. However, I feel people are not considering all the facts of the situation. I present facts so that they can be better understood. Nobody is lying — not them, not me. I would appreciate it if you did not put words in my mouth in the future.

  • Anonymous

    I call BS because if they would’ve had a clause in the PS3 Elite puchase terms stating that Xbox would still be getting DLC first before anyone nobody on the PS3 would have even bought the service. They left it vague for a reason and that is so they can fool us playstation users into getting it. Microsoft  tried to fool players also by putting this deal into place thinking we as PS3 users were gonna be like “I guess I should get a xbox now” but nobody fell for it and we are still on our PS3′s  waiting for our content.

  • Anonymous

    I see.  I hate to even think about this, but how likely is a scenerio where Premium members on other platforms don’t get their first two maps until AFTER Xbox regular members get access to the first DLC bundle?

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    Thats the thing tho Dan and thats where activision shoots themselves in the foot year after year, Because they are not open about things people have to make assumptions they should have come out right from the get go and said elite season of content will start before ps3′s season of content simple over and done with people know where they stand from that piont out.

    However activision also contradict them selves with this as ps3 users get content before xbox 360 users in the form of paying Elite customers and non paying Elite customers Respectitivly surely that goes back on said 2010 agreement so to keep the agreement for one part and not for the other is a matter of choice and not contract.

    I suppose my main point in all of this tho is be open and be honest and then everyone knows where they stand. As they did for the pc version siplfiy it ie remove dedis as they are too complicated in place of a p2p system because the average user understands that better. The average user doesn’t understand that a deal made in 2010 would effect a new service yes it’s dlc but it’s part of a paid service now and not an optional you either buy it every 1/4 or you don’t.

    Open And Honest is all we are looking for.

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    “He says as an Elite premium member, “you get it first, and you get it more often.” I’m and Elite subscriber and have i got it first no i get it second hand after it’s been posted over the internet for god knows how long (because we havn’t been told) so what should have been said was “Xbox Elite premium member, “you get it first, and you get it more often.” That save the confusion and were still at the point at that time and this yes it’s been said Eps3 will get it before non Exbox guys but surly that goes against the 2010 deal signed as PS3 are getting it before some xbox guys. (see Above) 

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    so roughly 30 days then i don’t see how the 9month thing will work then with what with exbox season finishing in september and then eps3 finishing in october where does that leave the non subscribers and the ones that had no choice to purchase elite(but thats a different ball game). late oct early feb for 3 months worth of content just before the next yearly instalment it just won’t work.

    Based on initial release EPS3 final content will drop oct 24th leave a week or so till non subs to get it and that leaves 2 weeks for EPS3 to enjoy the content and non subs 1 week that just doesn’t make sense.(and yes assumptions have been made here as we have been given no other evidence other than to base it on previous content)

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    you missed out PC ;)

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    the information they with held would have been that elite xbox subscribers would get it first they said nothing  so you have people think because nothing has been said regarding that the elite server will be equal.

    i bought mw3 HE and nowhere there does it say that EPS3 will get content after EXBOX guys there is also confusion regarding the fact if xbox ahve an agreement stating xbox get it first and how we have been told that the Elite subscription doesn’t 
    trump  that agreement so how do EPS3 guys get it before non EXBOX guys? Surely something has changed within that agreement.

    EPS3 = Elite PS3
    EXBOX = Elite XBOX

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    no thats the other confusing part non EXBOX get it after EPS3

    From the Elite FAQ

    Q,Do X360 and PS3 Call of Duty ELITE Premium members receive their Content at the same time?

    A,Similar to Map Packs, X360 Premium members will receive their Content before PS3 Premium members. All Call of Duty ELITE Premium members will receive a steady stream of content released monthly for 9 months through the Content season, and they will also receive their Content before non-premium members on their console.so that goes against the agreement or the agreement has been amended or this was planned back in 2010 when it was first written.EPS3 = Elite PS3EXBOX = Elite XBOX

  • Anonymous

    The bottom line is that Microsoft’s DLC exclusivity deal should not come into play when activision is charging subscription fees.

  • Chase Pearsall

    You didn’t call people liars and I can appreciate your resentment in my choice of words, which in that case was not the best. 

    However, to me this article carries that tone and it does so because we value your product. I value and to some degree cherish Call of Duty. It is often times a means for us to get together with friends and enjoy our time. We are upset because the value on product intent is unbalanced. It’s out of your hands as it is for anyone that us as customers are able to access. However, any representative of Activision has made it very clear that they are indifferent to the situation (at least that I have been able to find). Thus, when I see an article entitled “Why Xbox 360 gets CoD DLC before PS3″ coming from someone who has created your unique position I have higher hopes. That’s on me.

    What’s not on me is the fact that we (PS3 customers) have paid the same money and received a lesser product. That is undisputed. That is fact. I can’t find an article or human being who could dispute this claim, though I’d be open to hearing it. There in lies the problem. Activision knows it, the customers know it, but no one from Treyarch, Infinity Ward, Sledgehammer, or Activision is commenting on it. 

    Dan, here is the real challenge that I present (you are more than welcome to challenge me right back): write the real article. You are absolutely right when it comes to everything stated above. Activision has not promised PS3 customers anything that they cannot fulfill, but that’s too easy. There are business deals and contracts and this is the way it is, but what do you and Activision have to say about it? Is there going to be a commitment to push the studios to make equal products? Right now it feels like no one cares and no one will ever care. Can you prove us wrong, because we’re all hoping you do?

    Fan boys are going to bitch no matter what, and I can’t imagine what that non-stop barrage must be like for you… But for the rest of us who are concerned customers who value our time as well as yours (this is why I left my name on here), we’re waiting to read the real article. 

    Chase.

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    I just want people to stop challenging me to do things. This is not a fight. This is a statement, and you either accept it or you do not. 

    What’s more, you’re asking me for insight on what is essentially a value judgment that I did not make. “We got a lesser product.” “It feels like no one cares and no one will ever care.” I don’t feel that way; I have just as much fun playing PS3 MW3 as I do 360. As for caring? No, not from what I’ve seen, but that’s not smething I can prove it one way or the other, right or wrong. It’s your interpretation. I won’t even argue the point, because your experience is not mine to invalidate. 
    What I can prove is what was said and what was not said, and show the evidence as to why there is an exclusivity agreement. I cannot prove your emotions. This is undisputed. I understand that people are frustrated; I’m not denying it. I sympathize, because I have also been a consumer on the outside of an exclusive deal, and I know how it feels. But again…I have accepted it as part of business. Also, this is a temporary situation. I would hope — but not expect, just hope — for some greater perspective. 

  • http://oneofswords.com/ Dan (OneOfSwords)

    You cannot be more open than announcing a three year deal at E3 two years ago. 

    I’m sorry, it all comes down to that being public knowledge, and I pointed it out in June. If I’m a source for you now, I’m sorry I was not a source for you then, but open and honest is exactly what I was. 

  • http://twitter.com/Cyber_Athlete19 Shawn Butler

    At this point I am looking at April before PS3 sees the content.  Based on the way the everything is shaping up XBox will need to have the First DLC Pack out before PS3 sees the first map in my opinion.  By March there will be enough content to have a 5 map pack for Xbox and than will be out hopefully by late March then 30 days later PS3 Elite will get the first two pieces of content. 

    What gets me is that, yes I know the maps have to be approved my Sony before release, is that right after the maps are release on 360 no one will give a ballpark date for PS3 or PC.  It is like no one is allowed to talk about DLC on other systems until 2 weeks after the 360 release. If you are pinned on the 30 day window why not release 360 content on the 1st of the month and PS3 at the end of the month?  We paid the money and have 20 pieces of content coming there is no reason to hype the content so just tell us the release dates for all system and we can all play nice together.  It is like playing Marco Polo in and no one is answering, except Dan.  Everyone else is mum.

  • Anonymous

    What all you guys are missing with your comments is that with the info that they released online about dlc and elite, acitivision as well as official announcements all said it would not change the dlc agreement wth microsoft.

    Just because some didnt read or read fully about this content doesent mean activision or anyone was wrong.

    with all the talk of elite being developed and released, i read multiple times about the way dlc would be released.

    Oneofswords even pointed out some places where it was listed and it wasnt in just the fine print. Not trying to be an ass or mean to anyone but again you cant point the blame at them if some failed to read or look at things properly

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    it’s not about the dlc agreement being changed its about being informed about a new paid service that was releases and was dubbed “ELITE you get it first” i’m an elite subscriber and i get it second Eric’s word not mine at that point they should’ve separated ELITE PS3 and ELITE XBOX users as we are not one of the same. His statement was a partial truth ELITE subscribers encompasses people that paid for the service so that statement was a lie.

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    the way the release schedule is as i see it and have read is as follows

    Elite XBOX – Jan 24th Confirmed
    Elite PS3 – around 1 month later (as per 2010 agreement)
    non ELITE Xbox – March (Confirmed by activision http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=641953 4th paragraph down)
    additional platforms at a later time

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    i beg to differ that deal was for xbox exclusivity activision added elite exclusivity into the mix so not only does this throw the deal into doubt for most but activision contradicts themselves and the deal by releasing content to ps3 uses before xbox users this being the case regards Elite PS3 and non ELITE xbox.

    so this was either planned back in 2010 or was amended with the announcement of ELITE if so the public should’ve been made aware as this effects them directly.

    love the way everyone is looking at this as if it the same ball park and the goal posts are in the same position they are not Believe it or not ELITE changed this and as such an additional announcement should have been announced. 

    Dan you yourself couldn’t even answer the question when first asked it via twitter back when trolling announced dlc and this was after your june 2011 post. So if you didn’t know or wasn’t sure and you work with them how on earth are the general public to know.?

  • http://twitter.com/comeradealexi comeradealexi

    Thanks for sharing the info Dan! I can see you’re getting a lot of stick in the comments but i’m thankful you’ve cleared things up and released this information! Top job! Hope you have a nice day

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PK7BSOS4RHTPFK32ZQHH6TG5IE Micky

    Dan Amrich are you meant to be some kind of PR for Activision? If you are, you should be sacked. You come accross as slightly aggressive, rude, and ignorant to what gamers are telling you. In short, you are a disaster for the company and someone should take a look at your role.

  • http://twitter.com/drunkbeers drunk beers

    “you get it first, and you get it more often.”

  • http://twitter.com/CprlRst John Maguire

    the man gets so much stick and he has explained this below

  • Anonymous

    A couple things:
     
    1. I’m not surprised the Xbox exclusivity deal wasn’t addressed outright by Activision when they started pimping Elite. Why would any company want to highlight anything which could be perceived as negative towards a new service? It’s PR, man, and listing off features people don’t get ain’t sexy at all. “Reading the fine print” is hardly a new concept.
     
    2. On the other hand, I’m a little surprised Microsoft hasn’t gone balls-out and let everyone know they were getting Elite first, in order to lure potential customers into buying their product over Sony’s. I can only imagine the contract prevented them from doing so.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s where you’re going wrong. When it’s released to the xbox marketplace, it’s considered released. Meaning PS3 can have it 1 month from that date. So that does not go against the agreement.

  • http://twitter.com/RobsStang Rob M

    Bottom line what I want to know is IF PS3 Elite subscribers will get maps before regular Xbox users – I don’t think they will and thats why Activision is afraid to post release dates.  Its going to be a wall of hate on the internet, if PS3 Elite members don’t see new maps til April.

  • http://twitter.com/djstevegee Steve Gibbons

    true enough but the real reason why ps3 owner are getting ripped off is…..if other years are to go by ps3 will get there first dlc a month after 360 which means our 1st dlc release date would be 24th Feb, then a further 8 months ontop of that, there the last map/dlc will be released to ps3 owners around 24th Oct which by my reconing is only a couple of weeks before the new COD comes out. thats why we think were getting ripped off.

  • http://twitter.com/djstevegee Steve Gibbons

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=16EqOQVSG94  check out the video fast forward to around 36:30 you will here him clearly say if your a premium elite member you will get the dlc first, doesnt say 360 or ps3 first just that if YOUR a premium member you WILL get it FIRST

  • http://twitter.com/The_Anderman Christopher Anderson

    Sorry…PCs need love too!

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